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PostPosted: Wed Feb 21, 2018 9:11 pm    Post subject: injured pilot Reply with quote

pilot severely injures leg, but after surgery and 5 months therapy, he is back to 100%.
Does he disclose the injury and treatment to his AME before he flies again, or just go back to flying and report at next medical?

Can AME clear pilot to resume flying or does it take some pinhead up the chain of command?
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 22, 2018 12:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, I'm not a doctor or a lawyer, and I didn't stay at a Holliday Inn Express last night, but....

The legs aren't subject to fail without notice such as a heart attack, stroke, drug impairment, diabetes, etc. You said 100%. Has the patient's regular medical doctor or physical therapist issued any type of "Return to Service" order? Is there anything stating that he/she is 100%. If so, I'd go fly. If not, I might still go fly if everything is working sufficiently enough to manipulate the rudder pedals.

20-odd years ago I flew with four broken bones in my ankle 11 days after I broke it, but that was in my Super Viking. The Pitts sat idle for MANY months.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 22, 2018 5:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My understanding is that this comes under the "self-certification" rule, 61.53, which says that even if you have a medical, you can't fly if a current condition would make you unable to pass a medical right then and there. It doesn't say you then need to go get another medical. The implication is that when you self-ground, you can then self-certify once you are recovered, and then simply report it on your next medical.

A quick call to AOPA can give a more authoritative answer, if the pilot has their medical or legal plan add-on.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 22, 2018 7:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Andy is correct. Go fly
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 22, 2018 7:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That is correct, an AME does not grant permission to keep flying, they only do the medical certification at time they are due or when instructed by FAA.

The pilot is responsible to make the determination as per Title 14 CFR Section 61.53

https://www.faa.gov/about/office_org/headquarters_offices/avs/offices/aam/ame/guide/app_process/general/prohibition/

However you may want to check in with a AME prior to your next physical to see if they need any records to make your next physical go as smooth as possible.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 22, 2018 11:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My understanding is that you are required to report ALL visits to a health care professional on the renewal application. The AME uses that information in his determination of your eligibility to renew.

I agree with Andy about self certification, but if there is any loss of strength or mobility I would call my AME for guidance.

Of course it all goes into the FAA database on you also, but in this case it sounds like there is nothing that would raise concern.

I went through a torn rotator cuff and 3 months of PT. Reported all of it on the next renewal and it wasn't a concern to anyone.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 22, 2018 11:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

True, you do have to report all visits at your next medical, but you self-certify in between, unless your ailment is one of those on a specific list, the name of which I can’t recall. Includes big things like cancer, seizures, etc.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 22, 2018 12:27 pm    Post subject: Re: injured pilot Reply with quote

gregorydshanks wrote:
pilot severely injures leg, but after surgery and 5 months therapy, he is back to 100%.
Does he disclose the injury and treatment to his AME before he flies again, or just go back to flying and report at next medical?

Can AME clear pilot to resume flying or does it take some pinhead up the chain of command?


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 8:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

why sweat it??

The Aerospace Medicine folks are pretty good on things like this.

Magic words from your Dr. " Patient recovered and able to do all normal functions." or something like that. Aerospace sends you a letter that you are cleared to have a medical, and if the one you have is current...away you go.

Mtn. Doc, do I have this about right?

Nice thing is all you have to do on the next physical is to note and state "previously reported".

So far this has worked for me through two back surgeries, a knee replacement and a cataract surgery. Working my way towards Million Dollar Man.



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