Turbo Maule's

210TC · Post by **210TC** » Fri Jan 12, 2007 8:07 pm

I just visited this site and notice M5-210TC.
I have # 10 210TC the last one built. What is your serial #?
I stay in contact with the two other flying TC's in the US. We have three good machines flying and I understand two are in south america.
If you need any turbo parts let me know.

David

maules.com · Post by **maules.com** » Fri Jan 12, 2007 9:47 pm

David, the TC you saw is 'Mauler' in South Africa.
I just sold the only turbocharged M5 235C Lyc O540J1A5D done some years ago as a one time STC. Hopefully we'll see it flying soon.
There are also two M4 250 turbo Franklins out flying somewhere. One last seen in Colorado.

210TC · Post by **210TC** » Sat Jan 13, 2007 8:38 am

Thanks Jeremy,
The 210TC made me assume that it was like mine.
Must be a normalized system?
Maybe, someday the other 210 turbo's will show up.

maules.com · Post by **maules.com** » Sat Jan 13, 2007 10:37 am

I guess I mixed two info's together.
Mauler has an M5 210TC like yours in South Africa.
The Franklin 250 is manual wastegate.
The Lyc 235 is normalized, I think to 14,500 ft.

benflyn · Post by **benflyn** » Mon Jan 15, 2007 1:52 pm

#5 is here in the states, hope to be finished with restoration in a couple of months.

David and Jeremy,

What power settings is it best to cruise the 210tc at??

thanks
Butch

maules.com · Post by **maules.com** » Mon Jan 15, 2007 5:06 pm

Butch, in your Lyc engine ops. manual, Section 3 page 14 is used for performance cruise and page 15 for economy cruise. The book which is Part#60297-20 can be ordered from Lycoming about $25 and well worth it. The p/n may have changed a bit. Also check Section 8 page 4 to see % hp available at various altitudes provided temp lapse rate is standard and intake breathing is optimum.

210TC · Post by **210TC** » Mon Jan 15, 2007 5:48 pm

economy 28" at 2100 rpm. 9 plus gallons/hour. 30/34" at 22 to 2400 rpm fast cruse 11 to 13.5 gph. econ-105-110, fast-c 115-128 kts
you will find the manifold pressure will exceed redline from between 4 to 10 inches. this is between 230hp to 270hp, if you have original cylinders don't worry, if you have something different be careful. this is why the to360 cyl's are $1,000.00 more than any other 360/540 cyl.
I do not keep my foot-in-it longer than 20 or so seconds (take-off).
If you fly faster than 115 indicated the fuel burn goes up FAST. go as fast as your wallet will allow.
Carry a large ox bottle and you will outrun many aircraft. We averaged 155 knots(on the gps) from CA to Canada at 17,500. at this altitude you will still have 750 to 1000 fpm climb.
I recomend a multi vis/oil 20/50 and make sure your engine is WARM before you put the pedal to the metal. Plan on no more than 500 hrs on the turbo for two reason: 1. the mount screws on the compressor side of turbo will pull out do to vibration (call me if this happens). 2. The climb angel is so steep with this setup (maule on steroids) oil will back up in turbo ( coking). it is possible to get many more hrs from the turbo, but inspect it by pulling the compressor side at least every 500 hrs, four hours labor max. Can be done without removing the turbo from the aircraft. Other than take off fly it and forget it has a turbo. hope you don't mind all the mumbo jumbo. you will understand in just a few hours of flight. The only maule that will come close to your 210tc is a turbine.

210TC · Post by **210TC** » Mon Jan 15, 2007 6:27 pm

When you get her going maybe we can have a 210tc get-together??
One owner is in Washington,Arkansas and Texas and you?
Mine is nic-named Betsy

Mauler · Post by **Mauler** » Fri Feb 02, 2007 2:49 am

maules.com wrote:David, the TC you saw is 'Mauler' in South Africa.

Yup, that's me. Unfortunately the 210TC ( #8 ) got badly damaged in a forced lob after the engine failed on takeoff. Here are a couple of pictures.

The aircraft is now being slowly rebuilt and hopefully will be flying again this year.

benflyn · Post by **benflyn** » Fri Feb 02, 2007 8:12 am

The one in Georgia is either 6, 7 or 9 (Mexican Registry), that leaves only two TC's not accounted for 6, 7 & 9.

N56294 S/N9001C Pocahontas, AR

N5638K S/N9002C Lake Oswego, OR

N5638D S/N9003C Aspen, CO

N5637D S/N9004C Pasco, WA

N5641A S/N9005C Farson, WY

?????? S/N9007C Georgia (in Pieces ??)

????? S/N9008C South Africa

N5646N S/N9010C Enterprise, FL

Mauler,

If you don't mind, please let us know the reason of the flame out, I like useful information.

In the rebuild process think about a MT prop the replacement for the Hartzell, I was doing some checking on this, no stc in USA yet.

This what I have learned so far.

2-blade CS propeller MTV-15-B/210-58 on your aircraft, assuming you can use 83 inch diameter. Please check this.
A further point is the spinner. Since you are using the larges hub extension from Hartzell, the " E " hub, we must know the diameter of the spinner as well as the position relative to the engine flange.
As soon as we have your answer, we will check our possibilities. A hub extension is not a problem. Once we have the possible max. diameter from you, we may check the situation with the vibration in order to be in compliance with FAR 23.907 or wheter we have to run a vibration survey. The propeller itself is in clompliance with FAR 23.905, certified by the FAA.

210TC · Post by **210TC** » Fri Feb 02, 2007 8:12 am

A very sad picture.
I would like to know what caused the engine falure, This info could help us.
David

210TC · Post by **210TC** » Fri Feb 02, 2007 8:46 am

Many years ago your prop would have been straightened, now if it has a scratch in it, it has to be replaced. Your country may be more laxed than the US. Composite props are great, I have an MT 4 blade on my Harmon very smooth and silent, however it takes forever to get replacement parts?? and I do not think it will hold up to the conditions your metal prop will. Any damage to the prop (rocks etc) and it will need to be sent to the factory (possible Germany).
A coulpe of years ago I was at Maule and they had just made a new carbon fiber cowl for the TC, cool if yours cannot be rebuilt.
Did it tweek the mount?

210TC · Post by **210TC** » Fri Feb 02, 2007 9:21 am

I keep having to leave this site and come back.
Mauler,
I do know about a prop that is new and has been in storage for 20 years.
since our props have the AD on the hub (grease zerts) it could save some money.
If I can help you in any way, please email.

benflyn · Post by **benflyn** » Fri Feb 02, 2007 12:29 pm

210TC,

Is that new prop the E2YR hub? That is the long hub.

210TC · Post by **210TC** » Fri Feb 02, 2007 1:16 pm

I don't have the #'s in front of me.
If this is the # for the two blade Hartzel that was installed on all 210TC's the answer is yes.
If you need the prop and hub it is at the Maule factory. It was in the warehouse near the jigs and other test parts for the 210TC. This is also the area they used (at the time) to do drop testing on landing gear.
I think these folks would make you a good deal now that the hub has an AD. You can continue to use this hub if you don't mind the level 2 inspection's required. Also, the prop would need tear-down and inspection do to it's age (more than 5 years) I spoke to Brent Maule a couple of years ago about the prop. He is a wonderful guy to chat with.
One more note: Hartzel is giving 50% off new hub to replace hub with AD.
THIS IS A TIME LIMITED OFFER.

Turbo Maule's

Turbo Maule's

210TC'S

Who is online