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Posted: Fri Dec 27, 2019 7:42 am
by Mog
I have considered the same, but I still want to be able to open the top window. Also full “glassâ€￾ is heavy.

Posted: Fri Dec 27, 2019 9:01 am
by freedom
full glass with the window that can open/close with a gas spring.

I thought it be lighter than the aluminum frame around and the angles inside.
Still without the insulation and vinyl cover will be lighter than stock.

Posted: Sat Dec 28, 2019 12:12 pm
by crbnunit
freedom wrote:too bad all the pics in this tread are blurred or gone forever.
I'm considering covering the doors only with policarbonate eliminating the aluminum frame around.

I'm thinking of extending the glass about 1/2 in wider to overlap with the fuselage. And apply a weather strip on the excess to isolate the cabin.

any thoughts or recommendations?

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This is how mine are done. It works well and gives you max visibility but I'm not sure I'd do it this way again as the overlap for the door seals has cracked in a few places. Especially vulnerable in the lower corners. I'd still go full glass but I'd probably use metal for the door seal area.

Posted: Sat Dec 28, 2019 12:16 pm
by crbnunit
Make sure you chamfer the holes in the plexi. This will really help with the cracking. You also want to use a pop rivet with a broad head to secure it to the door frame.

Posted: Sat Dec 28, 2019 12:59 pm
by freedom
What seal did you use just a weather strip or something more exotic?

One of my concerned was the plexiglass getting cracks with the door slamming into the fuselage.

I was contemplating on using rivnuts and screws to avoid cracks over the fasteners.

Posted: Sat Dec 28, 2019 9:23 pm
by crbnunit
I just used soft on sided sticky foam weather seal. Comes in lots of widths, thicknesses and densities. I actually have had no problems from the rivets and had no cracks from the assembly process. The problems started later and resulted in the lower rear corner of the passenger door being held in place by the sticky weather stripping and a small half moon out of the lower pilot's door. They are probably 10 years old now though with no other problems. Metal edges would fix the problem and if you only use metal that covers up to the door frame, visibility stays the same as full glass.

Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2020 12:04 pm
by freedom
How did you attach the door hinge to the door frame, on top of the plexiglass or did you cut a slot on the glass to have the hinge directly attached to the frame?

Posted: Thu Jan 09, 2020 11:35 am
by crbnunit
A round hole for the stud and base and a slot for the hinge.

Posted: Thu Jan 09, 2020 12:43 pm
by freedom
I’m going full glass on all 4 doors.
The 2 in the front the middle tube has been curved outside to leave more room in the cockpit.

Posted: Sat May 09, 2020 10:27 pm
by Mog
Freedom, did you ever convert your doors?

Posted: Tue May 12, 2020 2:32 am
by freedom
yes, unfortunately I had to stop almost 3 months ago on working on the plane due to Covid freedom of movement restrictions (which is funny considering my nickname). This afternoon will finally see my baby after all these months. The doors are basically done and I believe very functional, just need to paint all the aluminum parts. I've added a key lock on each individual door, with curved middle tube. Obsever window on the bottom, swing out window on top.

will post some pictures in the next days, as soon as I've time.

Posted: Sat May 23, 2020 4:34 pm
by Pecos
I bought the parts from maule and just finished the pilot door of my M4. Very happy with the results. Just like factory with correct curve to the opening upper window and plexiglass. Will start the passenger door next.

Patroller doors

Posted: Sat May 23, 2020 4:34 pm
by Pecos
I bought the parts from maule and just finished the pilot door of my M4. Very happy with the results. Just like factory with correct curve to the opening upper window and plexiglass. Will start the passenger door next.

Patroller doors

Posted: Sat May 23, 2020 4:35 pm
by Pecos
I bought the parts from maule and just finished the pilot door of my M4. Very happy with the results. Just like factory with correct curve to the opening upper window and plexiglass. Will start the passenger door next.

Patroller doors

Posted: Sat May 23, 2020 4:36 pm
by Pecos
I bought the parts from maule and just finished the pilot door of my M4. Very happy with the results. Just like factory with correct curve to the opening upper window and plexiglass. Will start the passenger door next.