MPI
- Sam Rutherford
- 100+ Posts
- Posts: 197
- Joined: Sat Nov 10, 2007 11:10 pm
- Location: Europe
- Contact:
MPI
Hi all,
What's the word on this inspection?
How often, and what sort of cost should it come in at (assuming no problems found)?
Thanks, Sam.
What's the word on this inspection?
How often, and what sort of cost should it come in at (assuming no problems found)?
Thanks, Sam.
-
- 100+ Posts
- Posts: 1773
- Joined: Tue Aug 29, 2006 6:53 am
- Location: ALbany Ga., KABY
- Contact:
- Sam Rutherford
- 100+ Posts
- Posts: 197
- Joined: Sat Nov 10, 2007 11:10 pm
- Location: Europe
- Contact:
- Skystrider
- 100+ Posts
- Posts: 151
- Joined: Mon Feb 05, 2007 2:56 pm
- Location: Pennsylvania
- Contact:
- 210TC
- 100+ Posts
- Posts: 733
- Joined: Fri Jan 12, 2007 7:58 pm
- Location: New Braunfels, Tx
- Contact:
Never heard of this requirement on an airframe. However, Robinson Helicopters does conduct this test on landing assembles, engine and gear box mounts before powder coating at overhaul. All of the steel mounts.
Most airframes are 4130 chrome molly and seldom crack. This does not mean they never crack as they sometimes do around gussets in the landing gear area after 40 to 60 years.
I always inspect high stress point areas during each annual. If I find rust or paint crinkled that doesn't look right I get out the magnifying glass first, never had to do dye or particle inspection. BUT, I don't know everything and I sure haven't seen everything.
I may be wrong about Robinson, they do test. However, it could be a different type of test??? The test your talking about uses a magnet that is placed on the area to be checked and some special power is blown on with a small hand held squeeze bottle between the horse shoe points of the magnet. If a crack is present it will show it clearly. When you take an old steel/cast iron cylinder head to the machine shop this is how they check for cracks.
Most airframes are 4130 chrome molly and seldom crack. This does not mean they never crack as they sometimes do around gussets in the landing gear area after 40 to 60 years.
I always inspect high stress point areas during each annual. If I find rust or paint crinkled that doesn't look right I get out the magnifying glass first, never had to do dye or particle inspection. BUT, I don't know everything and I sure haven't seen everything.
I may be wrong about Robinson, they do test. However, it could be a different type of test??? The test your talking about uses a magnet that is placed on the area to be checked and some special power is blown on with a small hand held squeeze bottle between the horse shoe points of the magnet. If a crack is present it will show it clearly. When you take an old steel/cast iron cylinder head to the machine shop this is how they check for cracks.
Last edited by 210TC on Tue Dec 23, 2008 2:49 pm, edited 1 time in total.
David
www.Landshort.com
www.Landshort.com
-
- 100+ Posts
- Posts: 1773
- Joined: Tue Aug 29, 2006 6:53 am
- Location: ALbany Ga., KABY
- Contact:
- 210TC
- 100+ Posts
- Posts: 733
- Joined: Fri Jan 12, 2007 7:58 pm
- Location: New Braunfels, Tx
- Contact:
-
- 100+ Posts
- Posts: 1773
- Joined: Tue Aug 29, 2006 6:53 am
- Location: ALbany Ga., KABY
- Contact:
I'm still wondering what he wants to mag particle. If he is trying to inspect the airframe I would suggest filling it with linseed oil and draining it. Trust me any crack will become immedately apparent, it also almost absolutely prevents any corrosion from the inside of the tubes.
All Thrush airframes are completely filled with hot linseed oil and drained for this purpose. Twenty years later if an airframe cracks, you know it because it looks as if varnish is leaking from an otherwise invisable crack.
As an inspection procedure of a steel part, eddy current is superior to mag particle, but neither is warrantied for a Maule airframe in my opinion, except maybe where there is suspicion of damage, like maybe if you hit so hard as to spread the gear, the attach points may be looked at.
All Thrush airframes are completely filled with hot linseed oil and drained for this purpose. Twenty years later if an airframe cracks, you know it because it looks as if varnish is leaking from an otherwise invisable crack.
As an inspection procedure of a steel part, eddy current is superior to mag particle, but neither is warrantied for a Maule airframe in my opinion, except maybe where there is suspicion of damage, like maybe if you hit so hard as to spread the gear, the attach points may be looked at.
-
- 100+ Posts
- Posts: 327
- Joined: Sun Aug 12, 2007 4:59 pm
- Location: North Pole, AK.
- Contact:
Steel Tubing Insp
I like the idea of using linseed oil. However it is a bit awkward trying to make sure you get all of the tubes seviced.
On some of the helicopters I maintain the steel tubing is pressurized with a gage attached. When the pressure on the gage drops then you know you have a leak.
Merry Christmas!
On some of the helicopters I maintain the steel tubing is pressurized with a gage attached. When the pressure on the gage drops then you know you have a leak.
Merry Christmas!
Silly Billy Charters and Tours
Valdez, AK.
Valdez, AK.
-
- 100+ Posts
- Posts: 327
- Joined: Sun Aug 12, 2007 4:59 pm
- Location: North Pole, AK.
- Contact:
Steel Tubing Required Insp
AC 43-13-1B requires that steel tubing be inspected with an ice pick!
If the ice pick penetrates the tubing then it fails the inspection.
I have found bad tubing this way. The most recent was on a Stinson and the tubing was under the seat where the main gear attaches.
Kind of crude but simple and cheap!
If the ice pick penetrates the tubing then it fails the inspection.
I have found bad tubing this way. The most recent was on a Stinson and the tubing was under the seat where the main gear attaches.
Kind of crude but simple and cheap!
Silly Billy Charters and Tours
Valdez, AK.
Valdez, AK.
Who is online
Users browsing this forum: Bing [Bot] and 27 guests