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Leaky fuel pump

Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2022 10:10 am
by whittakerw
I’ve taken about a month away from flying, was planning to get up for a little bit this morning but found a leaky fuel pump instead.

The gas was set to the off position during the month away. When I turned it on, fuel more or less constantly flowed out of what I assume is some sort of relief or overflow valve.

Anyone know if this is repairable? Or do I need to go ahead and order a new one?

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Re: Leaky fuel pump

Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2022 11:30 am
by whittakerw
Update- bad shaft seal! Sending out for overhaul or exchange

Re: Leaky fuel pump

Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2022 12:30 pm
by gdflys
Yes the sticker shock is real for overhauling these. :shock:

Re: Leaky fuel pump

Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2022 12:30 pm
by andy
I had the same thing happen with mine and had the Dukes electric fuel pump overhauled by CJ Aviation in Miami FL - twice. The first overhaul didn't completely fix the problem so I had to send it back a second time. $800 for the overhaul but that's better than $1600 for a new one.

Re: Leaky fuel pump

Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2022 4:38 pm
by norcal64d
My pump overhaul from CJ lasted only a couple years and the pump seized up. I recommend Aeromotors LLC, they charged me $450 and the pump has been working great ever since.

Re: Leaky fuel pump

Posted: Sat Oct 01, 2022 2:15 am
by Kirk
Thanks for the mention on Aeromotors. Price now lists at $500 for overhaul. Their capabilities list looks impressive.

Having worked around a lot of the maintenance and parts operations in Miami, I avoid most of them. There are a lot of shady operators down there utilizing unqualified workers under “supervision” and have seen a frequent occurrence of counterfeit parts.

Kirk

Re: Leaky fuel pump

Posted: Sun Oct 02, 2022 5:11 am
by gbarrier
Just had one done by Aeromotors.$500. Great folks. All old school. Send them your pump and your checks. Get it back in about two weeks or less in your original box. No frills, just good folks doing good work at a good price.

Re: Leaky fuel pump

Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2022 6:36 am
by whittakerw
Thanks for the feedback everyone. Aeromotors has it now, $500 for the overhaul. Should get it back any day.

Re: Leaky fuel pump

Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2022 12:51 pm
by Scottish.Maule
Mine’s not worked for years 😬

Re: Leaky fuel pump

Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2022 3:07 am
by andy
My POH doesn't even mention the electric fuel pump. The Textron Lycoming Operator's Manual says to turn the boost pump on during starting. I only do that if I'm having trouble starting in cold weather. The Lycoming Operator's manual also says that desired fuel pressure for the O-365-C1F is 3.0 psi with a minimum of 0.5 psi. If the fuel pressure gauge dropped much below 3.0 psi in flight, I would turn on the electric fuel pump until landing. That might indicate a failing mechanical fuel pump.

Re: Leaky fuel pump

Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2022 9:07 pm
by whittakerw
Thanks for the feedback everyone. Honestly I hadn’t been using it much anyways. But sometimes when I take people up I feel like I get “that look” for not using it on takeoff.

What’s the popular consensus here?

Re: Leaky fuel pump

Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2022 1:16 pm
by Andy Young
Need more info: what engine/fuel delivery system?

Re: Leaky fuel pump

Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2022 6:46 pm
by whittakerw
M5-235, o-540, just the regular gravity fed system

Re: Leaky fuel pump

Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2022 7:11 pm
by Andy Young
Ok, carbureted high-wing airplane generally has no need for a boost pump on take-off. Low-wing airplanes generally do call for it, because if the engine-driven pump fails, there is nothing to bring the fuel up to the engine. In your plane, gravity will do that for you. In fact, many carbureted high-wing airplanes don’t have any fuel pump at all, engine-driven or electric.

Bottom line: if your POH doesn’t call for it, then you shouldn’t feel self-conscious about not doing it, in this case.

My M-6-235 is fuel injected, and even it’s POH doesn’t call for boost pump on take-off, though a better argument could be made for using it with the fuel injected engine.

Re: Leaky fuel pump

Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2022 10:32 am
by whittakerw
Thanks Andy, sounds like a logical conclusion to me. I'll double check the POH but I don't think I remember seeing mention of using it.