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Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2014 3:55 pm
by MauleMechanic
The Federal Government has no business owning any land other than Military use.

Thanks for the input Doc

Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2014 4:01 pm
by MauleMechanic
If this happens.... http://www.naturalnews.com/044670_BLM_l ... ranch.html .......then I guess we will know the truth

Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2014 4:10 pm
by MauleMechanic
"The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people."
Juxtapose that with this quote:
"Last week, {the Bureau of Land Management} began seizing cattle found grazing on adjacent federal lands in violation of a law meant to protect an endangered desert tortoise."
Can someone please find me the section of the US Constitution that allows for federal ownership and/or control of land to protect an endangered desert tortoise? Or for ANY other purpose at all?
"The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution... are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.." is fairly clear.

Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2014 4:37 pm
by Mountain Doctor
"The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.'

That one is clear too.

Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2014 9:36 pm
by truthinbeer
Do a search for Agenda 21 and see how your government (and mine) are signing away our rights to a "world" organisation. Pretty soon some socialist bureaucrat from a country you have barely heard of will be telling you what you can and can't do in Texas, or N.Dakota.

Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2014 8:36 am
by iceman
in any case things there could get crazy fast as several armed militia organizations are en route according to what i read this morning...where's Horseshit Harry when a crisis evolves in his state....at least the governor and sheriff have made statements and gone on record against the feds handling of this situation....[/b]

Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2014 8:42 am
by iceman
just a thought... maybe the feds have totally bought into the global warming caused by cow farts and are starting to eliminate cows starting with Bundy's...

Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2014 10:59 am
by benflyn
Flyhound wrote:I've been involved in some of the land issues out in Nevada. Most of Nevada is BLM land, owned by the federal government. In the video, Mr. Bundy admitted he doesn't own the land that is in dispute, but claims to own the forage that is on the land. If he doesn't own the land, he doesn't own the plants growing on it. Grazing allotments are just that, an authorized use of federal land that comes under review on a regular basis.

What Mr Bundy does have is a vested right to the forage the grows on the land, that is just as valid right as our basic right to own property. This right predates the Taylor grazing act of 1934.

"The mountains and the plains will produce the finest race of men and women that the world has ever known, but they will have to meet with brains what the east presents buy numbers" Charles Goodnight ~ 1890
Flyhound wrote:I've had a number of run-ins with ranchers that exceed their grazing allotments by placing double or triple the number of cattle allowed on federal land and have damaged the fragile plants out there as a result.

This is just a small drop in the bucket compared to the fed mismanagement of the feral horse problem.


How to brainwash a nation,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zeMZGGQ0ERk

Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2014 2:26 pm
by MauleMechanic
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tfOVg5R ... _165489855


BREAKING: Militia Arrives at Bundy Ranch

Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2014 4:34 pm
by MauleMechanic
Published BLM Documents Prove Fed Unconstitutional Bundy Ranch Theft. "The Bureau of Land Management, whose director was Sen. Harry Reid’s (D-Nev.) former senior adviser, has purged documents from its web site stating that the agency wants Nevada rancher Cliven Bundy’s cattle off of the land his family has worked for over 140 years in order to make way for solar panel power stations."
"Deleted from BLM.gov but reposted for posterity by the Free Republic, the BLM document entitled “Cattle Trespass Impacts” directly states that Bundy’s cattle “impacts” solar development, more specifically the construction of “utility-scale solar power generation facilities” on “public lands.” http://www.infowars.com/breaking-sen-ha ... ndy-ranch/

Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2014 6:35 pm
by MauleMechanic
http://beforeitsnews.com/alternative/20 ... -publisher

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Confirmed Massive Military Compound Near Bundy Ranch

Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2014 7:16 pm
by iceman
like I said "where is Horseshit Harry """ turns out he and his son are behind a land grab involving the chinese to develop Bundy's property for a solar energy plant.....when are the people of Nevada gonna smarten up about Horseshit Harry.. they keep electing him to the senate and he keeps bending the state over for his own benefit....

Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2014 8:02 pm
by MauleMechanic
http://tfr.faa.gov/save_pages/notam_actual_4_1687.html
FDC 4/1687 ZLA NV..AIRSPACE MESQUITE, NV..TEMPORARY FLIGHT RESTRICTIONS WITHIN AREA DEFINED AS 3NM RADIUS OF 364624N/1141113W (MMM71 RADIAL AT 4.3NM) SFC-3000FT AGL LAW ENFORCEMENT INVESTIGATION. PURSUANT TO 14 CFR SECTION 91.137(A)(1) TEMPORARY FLIGHT RESTRICTIONS ARE IN EFFECT. ONLY RELIEF AIRCRAFT OPERATIONS UNDER DIRECTION OF BLM ARE AUTHORIZED IN THE AIRSPACE. BLM TELEPHONE 702-335-3191 IS IN CHARGE OF ON SCENE EMERGENCY RESPONSE ACTIVITY. LOS ANGELES /ZLA/ ARTCC TELEPHONE 661-265-8205 IS THE FAA COORDINATION FACILITY. 1404112140-1405111434

Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2014 10:46 pm
by Mountain Doctor
Wow. :shock:

Not good. :cry:

Posted: Sat Apr 12, 2014 7:19 am
by Duane
If your interested in where our good friend Harry stands.. this may shed a little light:
http://www.thefederalistpapers.org/us/b ... h-standoff